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Linguistics Research I will be meeting with an independent study student tomorrow morning to go over some paper related to our spelling project. One of the papers is
The sbelling of sdops: Preliterate children’s spelling of stops after /s/
Authors: Hannam, Rachel; Fraser, Helen; Byrne, Brian1
Source: Reading and Writing, Volume 20, Number 4, June 2007 , pp. 399-412(14)
Abstract:
Newly literate children have a tendency to spell s-stop sequences in words like spin,stop, sky with B, D, G (SBIN, SDOP, SGY), rather than with standard P, T, K. This observation potentially has implications for theories of English phonology as well as of language and literacy acquisition. Understanding these implications, however, requires data about the spelling preferences of preliterate children. In this study, a training-and-transfer design was used to test these spelling preferences in preliterate children. Results confirm that these children relate words with stops after /s/ to words with initial /b, d, g/ rather than to words with initial /p, t, k/. The paper outlines several possible interpretations: that preliterate children have a different phonemic analysis from adults, that they believe spelling represents archiphonemes that they believe spelling represents allophones, and that their early spelling attempts track the phonetic surface. The data suggest rejection of the second interpretation and in our view favour the last over the remaining interpretations. Several theoretical issues are raised that need to be resolved before a full account of the data can be offered.
I wanted to update myself on this, and the following seems to be a very concise summary.
LINGUIST List 15.1928: Aspiration in English sCC Clusters
On the other hand, I thought I read some optimality theory accounts some time ago, but I can’t seen to find anything directly relevant. There are lots of work, particularly by Robert Carlisle, on the L2 acquisition of /sC/ and /sCC/ clusters. Most OT work on /sC/ has to do either with syllabification or with language acquisition.
How do we know the underlying phoneme is a voiceless stop in the case of STAR, other than the fact it is spelled that way? Does SDAR simply look bad, or is it ‘really really’ bad linguistically?
The authors anticipated this question on page 408-409:
One solution would be to suggest that the standard account is based on a spelling effect, and may be in need of revision. We saw above, however, that although stops after /s/ have been extensively discussed over many decades, few phonologists have seriously proposed that stops after /s/ should be assigned to /b, d, g/. This is because phoneme assignment depends not just on the phonetic description of sounds, but on the way the sounds pattern in the language. As Treiman (1985) notes, throughout the English phonological system, clusters of stops and fricatives tend to share voicing. For example, in syllable-final position, only voiceless stops occur after /s/ (e.g., host); plural and past tense morphemes are adjusted to conform to the voicing of the preceding consonant. Indeed, this is common in all languages (Hockett, 1955). Even in a language like Italian, which represents clusters orthographically with SB, etc., the /s/ is pronounced as [z] so as to share voicing with the stop (Giannelli & Cravens, 1997). This in itself strongly supports assignment of stops after /s/ to the voiceless phonemes. Further support is given by the fact that a process of deaspiration of stops after /s/ is phonetically plausible and widely attested in languages of the world whereas the opposite is not (Ladefoged & Maddieson, 1996).
I don’t know what to make of the language typology argument — the only language I speak other than English forbids sC clusters. I am also not sure I’d buy the Italian SB example. If underlyingly it’s /sb/ and realized as /zb/ because of voicing harmony, then we got ourselves an example where the underlying representation is not harmonic. Then why can’t the underlying of STAR be /sd/ and save us some transformations?
Consider the following language game: STAR -> Suh/Tuh/A/Ruh. Familiar? That’s how teachers sound out words. But if you were to do this without thinking about the spelling, for example, in singing, would you say /t/ or /d/?
I find myself doing what 5-years did in this paper — I said /d/.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:17 am e
I don’t mind your disagreeing with me, but your argument seems to be that I’m not just wrong but guilty of nonsense because I’m a “successful person.” Why don’t you try reading carefully what I wrote, making a substantive argument about it, and then signing your own name to it? You can even do this if you’re a successful person!
I will be happy to read this (signed) argument and, if it’s persuasive, allow my kids to watch crap on TV day and night, which at least will negate some of the advantages they presumably enjoy from being the scions of such privilege. Or is it your contention that the poor would be better off letting their kids watch crap on TV day and night? Or maybe you’re claiming the poor can’t do anything else? Who knows what you’re claiming? Innuendo and anonymity are great this way.
September 18th, 2008 at 5:51 pm e
Uh, Dan … I am not only signing my name but also posting it on the website with my name all over it.
Looks like you were really annoyed by the tone of my post and by being called “nonsense”. But if you read carefully the last sentence of my post, I was not making a judgment of whether your article was nonsense. I said it depends on where you are standing. In other words, what you wrote clearly made perfect sense to you, but may not to others.
You attribute too much agency to individual free will, and failed to realize or acknowledge how much of your own cognition and decisions were shaped by the your own history and situations. Your recommendations that parents should do X and Y and Z only make sense to people who are either practicing them already or could apply them. Others will see them as utter nonsense.
– gary (signed)